Why Did Ashley and John get kicked out of the house?

[Fole]

I have seen all the footage and am glad they got kicked out. it is fairly obvious from watching big brother that Camilla has low self esteem and i have known lots of girls who put on a huge act about sex etc to in an attempt to make themselves feel more popular etc. VCamilla body language when she was talking to Big brother said a whole lot more than what she didn't say. How many rape cases arew there where the guys are saying it was just a joke were were just messing around, she enjoyed it?? The sexual harrasment laws don't give a damn weather she enjoyed it or not if anyone found the behaviour offensive then it is sexual harrasment. the Interview last night was a joke. Untill then i didn't mind the way they were handling it but that made both my anmy husbands stomach turn. If they had actually bothered to look sorry it might have been more convinving. Poor Ash and johnny are out of the house and it upsets them. Maybe this will make them grow up a little although i doubt it.
Fole

[Boofyana]

I still dont understand why BB did what he did if Camilla didnt complain and why wait till the next day to kick the boys out if it was that bad? Its made this incident bigger than it needs to be...

[Boofyana]

I agree that she has low self esteem and they did go a bit overboard, but we need to look at the facts too. Camilla jumped in their beds, she laughed before and after the incidents, and she STAYED in their beds afterwards. From someone who has been sexually abused, you dont stay somewhere where you feel violated and you certainly dont laugh about it either. Agreed the boys should of been punished, but I think it has been blown so out of proportion and as a result, Camilla is feeling guilty over them leaving even though she didnt ask for this to happen. Guess I can see both sides...

[Boofyana]

I agree what they did was wrong, but I wonder just how serious this incident was. Looking at the streaming, it lasted about 5 seconds, and Camilla is giggling before and after the incident - and then amazingly she stays in the bed lwith the boys ike nothing happened! As someone who has been sexually abused, that to me just didnt make sense. I also feel that the way it was handled by BB has made this issue much bigger than it is, mainly in affecting Camilla. Not only is she already suffering from low self-esteem but now feels the guilt from the guys being kicked out of the house, which is not fair but unavoidable. Unfortunatly, it may also be something that the public will remember when they think of her - and may either make or break her time in the house. Be interesting to see what happens from here....

[Kip]

Boof - staying the bed with them does not mean that she was not sexually abused; by that logic you may conclude that rape cannot occur within a marriage. Obviously a woman can be sexually abused and not run screaming from the room. This is because of the endemic acceptance of sexual violence towards women in our society. These boys performed unconsentual and degrading acts upon Camilla, but then it's not so different from many women's consenting sexual experiences with misogynistic and ignorant men.

[mooocow]

Well Camilla said to BB that Ashley said to John while camilla was in the bed that " I'll hold her down while you do it"!
I hat John and Ashley now thatthey havedone this they all say it was just a muck around!

[emeliek8]

Originally Posted by Boofyana

I agree what they did was wrong, but I wonder just how serious this incident was. Looking at the streaming, it lasted about 5 seconds, and Camilla is giggling before and after the incident - and then amazingly she stays in the bed lwith the boys ike nothing happened! As someone who has been sexually abused, that to me just didnt make sense. I also feel that the way it was handled by BB has made this issue much bigger than it is, mainly in affecting Camilla. Not only is she already suffering from low self-esteem but now feels the guilt from the guys being kicked out of the house, which is not fair but unavoidable. Unfortunatly, it may also be something that the public will remember when they think of her - and may either make or break her time in the house. Be interesting to see what happens from here....

I agree, that what the boys and CAMILLA done was not appropriate!!! But I also feel she played an equal part in the whole event. She was quoted saying at 1.17am that morning, that she would like to participate with john and ashley in a Turkey Slapping. At 4.00am she went to THEIR beds what was she expecting??